QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i think he's mentioned baker mayfield
he just went for 4500 and 41 TDs and makes 100m over 3, or 33m aav.

i see the point he is making. if the player wants to say dak makes this, the club should be able to say well baker makes that, and he had a better year than you did

Your posts are just maddening because of how illogical they are. Baker's 2024 season couldn't possibly be more irrelevant to his salary or to this conversation in general. He signed his deal 2 years prior to putting up those numbers and his resume before he signed isnt in the same stratosphere as Brocks is.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i think he's mentioned baker mayfield
he just went for 4500 and 41 TDs and makes 100m over 3, or 33m aav.

i see the point he is making. if the player wants to say dak makes this, the club should be able to say well baker makes that, and he had a better year than you did

Your posts are just maddening because of how illogical they are. Baker's 2024 season couldn't possibly be more irrelevant to his salary or to this conversation in general. He signed his deal 2 years prior to putting up those numbers and his resume before he signed isnt in the same stratosphere as Brocks is.

what resume? try playing for cleveland. then see what the resume looks like. i try to view brock for what he is and understand he entered an elite situation. in 2022 i think most ppl were stunned he's even a functional guy, and he was balling. in 2023, the team was loaded, and we probably peaked some time around the philly beatdown. 2024 he did not have a good year.

These guys get paid on upside. Brock being young and already having a bunch of playoff wins and not choking is worth a ton.

Fair would be like 50-55 a year. You have to look at all the other dudes like Jones and Lawrence and Dak, cousins, etc ... Those guys all got 40+. Caps more now and brocks been less of a choker than those guys.

Now if he wants 65 then maybe he's being unreasonable. 30-45 is not going to happen though.

If they don't think he's the guy then just don't pay him and let him know. If he then balls out next year and wins a SB are you going to balk when he asks for 80?

When he wants 75-80 your going to regret not paying him 50. And if they let him walk shanahan and lynch will fail and get fired. We have already seen them with enough qbs to know that brocks the best they've attempted in what 7 QBs?

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i think he's mentioned baker mayfield
he just went for 4500 and 41 TDs and makes 100m over 3, or 33m aav.

i see the point he is making. if the player wants to say dak makes this, the club should be able to say well baker makes that, and he had a better year than you did

I'm sure they will use more than two comps.

Ya the two things being that Brock made it to 2 NFC championships and a Superbowl, something Baker Mayfield hasnt even sniffed. And that is why Brock is going to be making at least more than Trevor Lawrence and maybe a little more than Burrow. I think that is the sweet spot that they will hit to appease Brock while also saving the team a little bit of room under the cap.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
I'd still just give Brock 30-35 million even with the salary cap increase. He regressed last year and is still under contract.

noted

You think that's actually possible?

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i think he's mentioned baker mayfield
he just went for 4500 and 41 TDs and makes 100m over 3, or 33m aav.

i see the point he is making. if the player wants to say dak makes this, the club should be able to say well baker makes that, and he had a better year than you did

Your posts are just maddening because of how illogical they are. Baker's 2024 season couldn't possibly be more irrelevant to his salary or to this conversation in general. He signed his deal 2 years prior to putting up those numbers and his resume before he signed isnt in the same stratosphere as Brocks is.

We have to deal with him in the PL as well. Believe it or not, his posts are way worse there.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i think he's mentioned baker mayfield
he just went for 4500 and 41 TDs and makes 100m over 3, or 33m aav.

i see the point he is making. if the player wants to say dak makes this, the club should be able to say well baker makes that, and he had a better year than you did

Your posts are just maddening because of how illogical they are. Baker's 2024 season couldn't possibly be more irrelevant to his salary or to this conversation in general. He signed his deal 2 years prior to putting up those numbers and his resume before he signed isnt in the same stratosphere as Brocks is.

what resume? try playing for cleveland. then see what the resume looks like. i try to view brock for what he is and understand he entered an elite situation. in 2022 i think most ppl were stunned he's even a functional guy, and he was balling. in 2023, the team was loaded, and we probably peaked some time around the philly beatdown. 2024 he did not have a good year.

just throw on your jimmy glasses, and you won't need to try anymore

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
just throw on your jimmy glasses, and you won't need to try anymore

that's the point i am getting at. at what point do we say this is the same guy? he plays different than jimmy, but the results are near the darn same.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i think he's mentioned baker mayfield
he just went for 4500 and 41 TDs and makes 100m over 3, or 33m aav.

i see the point he is making. if the player wants to say dak makes this, the club should be able to say well baker makes that, and he had a better year than you did

Your posts are just maddening because of how illogical they are. Baker's 2024 season couldn't possibly be more irrelevant to his salary or to this conversation in general. He signed his deal 2 years prior to putting up those numbers and his resume before he signed isnt in the same stratosphere as Brocks is.

Why bother with his dumbass ass posts? It's obvious he's only in these forums to troll.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
just throw on your jimmy glasses, and you won't need to try anymore

that's the point i am getting at. at what point do we say this is the same guy? he plays different than jimmy

^^^ its BS like this. This dude is only here to troll.

"At what point do we say this is the same guy?"
then acknowledges that they play different.

Also forget the fact, one players contribution being much more than the other.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

i think he's mentioned baker mayfield
he just went for 4500 and 41 TDs and makes 100m over 3, or 33m aav.

i see the point he is making. if the player wants to say dak makes this, the club should be able to say well baker makes that, and he had a better year than you did

Your posts are just maddening because of how illogical they are. Baker's 2024 season couldn't possibly be more irrelevant to his salary or to this conversation in general. He signed his deal 2 years prior to putting up those numbers and his resume before he signed isnt in the same stratosphere as Brocks is.

Mayfield was also on his 4th team and 3rd contract.

Even if Purdy's average salary per year (as opposed to his actual guaranteed money which is all that really matters) does not significantly exceed the top of the current market, I do not understand the objection to paying him.

1. Purdy is at minimum very good with the potential to be elite. He is still young and should be ascending.
2. The 49ers do not generally negotiate bad contracts. The guaranteed money is likely to result in the deal being a two year extension, or three year deal, with a bunch of money on the back end that will allow the team to get out of the deal if Purdy fails to meet expectations just like the team did with Jimmy.
3. The cap continues to go up significantly, as just happened. Contracts that first appear egregiously high fade into the realm of reasonable within a season or two.
4. Most importantly, what is the opportunity cost of paying Purdy a max type deal? To me this is actually all that really matters because fans should not care about the actual money – we aren't paying it.
   1. Which current 49er will the team be unable to extend because the team pays Purdy? Ward? The team can afford to resign him if they want but (a) they drafted his replacement and (b) he's likely gone anyway because of his personal tragedy. Huff? Who wants to pay Huff a large contract? Greenlaw? The team can pay resign Greenlaw, extend Kittle, and extend Jennings even with a monster deal for Purdy. The sad fact is the team does not have any young players coming up for big deals because the team's 2022 and 2023 drafts were complete trash, except for Purdy.
   2. Who are the free agents we should and could sign that the team will be unable to sign because of Purdy's deal? If the team wants to sign D.J. Reed and D.J. Jones the team can and still pay Purdy. Who is the team losing?
   3. The only player the team could potentially be unable to go in on because of Purdy is Myles Garrett (assuming he would even want to come here). But trading major comp for Garrett and giving him the massive extension he wants would be a catastrophic decision. This team needs to build through the draft again. The lack of depth this past year really showed as evidenced by the amount of snaps the entire rookie class played. The team's 2022 and 2023 drafts were absolute trash. The Trey Lance and McCaffrey trades decimated our early picks and the team screwed the pooch on the later round picks. This team is not one player away. If this team is going to continue to compete it has to build through the draft.
   4. Who is the QB who is replacing Purdy if we let him play the last year of his deal and he leaves in free agency? Does the fanbase think we will be drafting even 11 again after the 2025 season with Purdy playing? Who are we drafting? Sanders? Ward? Who are we drafting next year, and even if we do draft a QB after next season, why can't we have both? Who is the free agent QB who is going to be better than Purdy? Darnold? Cousins? None of these things are or should happen.
   5. I think he's a baller, but even if you don't, the difference in 40 mil per year and 55 mil per year is not damaging the team's ability to compete down the road.
5. Purdy is capable of winning a Super Bowl. He led comebacks against Green Bay and Detroit. Notably, he never left the field losing in the SB until the very end.

The team absolutely should extend Purdy and run it with him the next 2-3 years and if he sucks have an escape hatch which they almost always do.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i think he's mentioned baker mayfield
he just went for 4500 and 41 TDs and makes 100m over 3, or 33m aav.

i see the point he is making. if the player wants to say dak makes this, the club should be able to say well baker makes that, and he had a better year than you did

Your posts are just maddening because of how illogical they are. Baker's 2024 season couldn't possibly be more irrelevant to his salary or to this conversation in general. He signed his deal 2 years prior to putting up those numbers and his resume before he signed isnt in the same stratosphere as Brocks is.

Mayfield was also on his 4th team and 3rd contract.

Besides the million differences it's the same thing. Same with Jimmy…

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
just throw on your jimmy glasses, and you won't need to try anymore

that's the point i am getting at. at what point do we say this is the same guy? he plays different than jimmy, but the results are near the darn same.

what point and what results? Jimmy's best year (with the entire cast) was Brock's worst (no cast)

Jimmy can't get to Brock level is the true result